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Debian Jessie and SELinux 
So. Let's see where we are now with Debian and SELinux.
I'm installing the bare minimum of software and imagine I'm going to install a secure server. I'm a Linux professional and know very well what I'm doing, so I always pick the Expert Install option and basically configure as little as possible, so no non-free or contrib packages.
After the installation, the system boots and I disable installing optional or suggested packages, a feature which still cannot be configured from the installer. I install my favourite text editor and the selinux-basics package. It is suggested I also install a whole bunch of other crap, which I respectfully refuse. I'll pick what I need, later.
Well, I want some policy, of course, so selinux-policy-default seems reasonable. It was recommended when installing selinux-basics. Therefore it's very interesting that the package is simply not available. Well, this adventure ended quickly.
So, Debian, is this what you call SELinux support?
I'm installing the bare minimum of software and imagine I'm going to install a secure server. I'm a Linux professional and know very well what I'm doing, so I always pick the Expert Install option and basically configure as little as possible, so no non-free or contrib packages.
After the installation, the system boots and I disable installing optional or suggested packages, a feature which still cannot be configured from the installer. I install my favourite text editor and the selinux-basics package. It is suggested I also install a whole bunch of other crap, which I respectfully refuse. I'll pick what I need, later.
Well, I want some policy, of course, so selinux-policy-default seems reasonable. It was recommended when installing selinux-basics. Therefore it's very interesting that the package is simply not available. Well, this adventure ended quickly.
So, Debian, is this what you call SELinux support?
Comments
What is your goal with your blog? Write off frustration? 
I personally would find it interesting to read about minimum Linux installations and basic server needs (example packages). Perhaps you could even write a simple tutorial or anything like that.
I personally would find it interesting to read about minimum Linux installations and basic server needs (example packages). Perhaps you could even write a simple tutorial or anything like that.
Stop using end-user tools for 'professional' setups. Use preseeding and configuration management like SaltStack. Or go with FAI.
Using the wrong tool doesn't make the tool broken.
Using the wrong tool doesn't make the tool broken.
I would rather use AppArmor.
Lol. Sorry, but that made me chuckle.I'm a Linux professional and know very well what I'm doing, so I always pick the Expert Install option and basically configure as little as possible, so no non-free or contrib packages.
[qoute]I'm a Linux professional and know very well what I'm doing, so I always pick the Expert Install option and basically configure as little as possible, so no non-free or contrib packages.[/quote]That's hubris. You need to be a Debian install expert to be able to rightfully pick expert install. Every linux installs differently (anaconda != DebianInstaller != Slackware's setup).
PS: Why the English ?
PS: Why the English ?
Ondanks de kapotte quote sluit ik me volledig bij je aangoarilla wrote on Monday 27 April 2015 @ 23:25:
[qoute]I'm a Linux professional and know very well what I'm doing, so I always pick the Expert Install option and basically configure as little as possible, so no non-free or contrib packages.[/quote]That's hubris. You need to be a Debian install expert to be able to rightfully pick expert install. Every linux installs differently (anaconda != DebianInstaller != Slackware's setup).
PS: Why the English ?
Debian is een toffe distro, maar het is soms een beetje een vreemd eendje.
Persoonlijk ben ik overigens best enthousiast over deze nieuwe versie
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